Undercover From the CRNC (Day 2): Canto X
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Back to the Inferno... (does the use of the word "canto" make anymore sense now???)

So I've done some real quick interviews with some of the young conservatives wandering around here, and I figured it's about time I post some good stuff from that.

First, Patrick Callahan is from UC Santa Barbara, and he's doing some hardcore campaigning for (I don't know his first name) Davidson. There's a pretty crazy race going on between Davidson and Gourley for the CRNC Chairmanship. Lots of money, volunteers, traveling, stumping - Conventionette's gonna do some good stuff on that.

Me: Where do you see College Republicans going in the future?

PC: Well if Davidson wins, I see it going pretty far, but if Gourley wins, I’m guessing it’s probably not gonna really go past where it is right now. I think we need someone like Davidson to go out and basically implement his policies that he has for California on the national scale so that we can get the same results across the country that we got in California. I think that can really change the way College Republicans work and how effective they are in influencing state, local, and national campaigns.

JiaMei Chen is a Chinese Republican from California and a student at American River College (also in CA).

Me: What makes you a Republican?

JC: Well my family is a big influence on it, but also all the different stuff I’ve seen and stuff. You know what, you probably gotta excuse my language when I talk about liberals. I grew up in Shanghai, right, and China's a Communist country, right? When I got over here I saw there’s a two party system, liberals and conservatives, democrats and republicans, right? But all the liberals really stand for is social welfare, support all the laziness, socialists, free this and free that – tax all the hardworking people, give it away for nothing, you know? People just sit around, just sit on their butt all day and don’t do nothing. They drive a brand new Cadillac and stuff! What about the hard-working-class people? And we get taxed 50% out of our pocket, you know? I mean that’s socialist, right? So, that’s the reason I just think that you know what liberals just don’t make sense. Also probably the religious belief. I won’t vote for a single person that is pro-choice.

Shandra Cipriano is a student at the University of Nevada @ Reno.

Me: What makes you conservative?

SC: I honestly think I just kind of came out that way. My family’s that way, I was raised that way, it’s what I believe. It’s the kind of life I live, the beliefs I have, the way I want my future to be.

Scott Gehring is from Cincinatti. (He's a fast talker, hence the elllipses.)

Me: What makes you conservative?

SG: Really It’s b/c I believe in freedom…the freedom to live your life, really. …I believe in free market, free enterprise…I think we should have a right to do what we want. Gov’t. should play as little a role as possible.

Me: Where is the campus conservative movement headed?

SG: I think the conservative movement is headed in the RIGHT direction (haha) …in 3 diff ways. 1) children of the Reagan generation, which ultimately inspires more conservative parenting.
2) I think most ppl believe in the same things I believe in.

George Higgins is the State Chair of the NV College Republicans.

Me: What makes you a conservative?

GH: Well I guess it was because I was born a conservative, raised a conservative – really I believe in freedom and opportunity. People being able to go out and do what they wanna do. If you’re smart enough to go out and make a million dollars you should be if you’re not then you shouldn’t be. ...The conservative movement of today is very strong. All across America we have thousands of new College Republicans, 1500 College Republican chapters across the country, and everything we do is growing. I imagine we’ll see more of that in the future.

I have some quick reactions, then I must join the election discussion going on in Salon A.

First, Shandra's answer for the source of her conservatism is par for the people I've spoken to. These kids were born conservatives, and it sounds like they've never had to defend their stance their entire lives. Instead, parasites like David Horowitz feed them lies, they buy it, and eventually you get a full-grown Republican. It's too bad.

Second, I can't stop rereading JiaMei's words. While his phrasing of conservative dogma is not what it could be, he's basically drawing on this idea that liberals don't believe in hard work. I gather this is a trend among recent immigrants who fashion themselves as self-reliant individualists.

There's so much more to say, but I should really get inside that room.

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See any military recruiters?
By markg8 Jun 25th 2005 at 10:52 am EDT
Any Army recruiter sightings at the Marriott? I
got ahold of one in Falls Church just before 3pm
yesterday and he was pumped to hear about the
convention. Especially when I told him he could
make his monthly quota in one weekend. Left voice
mail for 3 more. These poor bastards are about as
popular as Typhoid Mary these days. Did my heart
good to help the Sarge out.
  
The only thing I hate more than Toms
By Assamite36 Jun 26th 2005 at 5:08 pm EDT
Are Chinese GoOPers.

Being Chinese/Taiwanese myself, of course.

I'm probably gonna sound prejudiced, but Chen Jiamei kinda validates "what they say" about the Shanghainese "where I'm from". God, did I just say that?

In a less prejudiced manner, I'm having extreme doubts about him (Jiamei sound's like a girl's name) actually growing up in Communist China, even if it IS post-Deng Shanghai. You just DON'T come out of an oppressive country with a sense of entitlement like that!

Ditto on the above commenter. Sometimes, I wish I could go into military recruitement so I can go to Young Republican conventions.
i take offense
By GOPer Jul 2nd 2005 at 3:47 am EDT
You know, my mom left a communist country and was a quite an individualist, she left on her own accord.

I took a great inspire to such individualism that I grew up with. She would constantly point out how liberal Americans would nickel and dime the honest worker.
Huh.
By slythwolf Jul 2nd 2005 at 10:47 pm EDT
I have no idea what you just said. Could you
possibly clarify, using grammar I can understand?
  
From a Delegate...
By Peetreeman Jun 27th 2005 at 11:26 pm EDT
As one of the delegates and a friend of JiaMei's ("Jim," for short), I take offense to your comments. Making fun of his English and questioning his background simply because he doesn't fall into one of the underprivileged groups you supposedly adopted provides for you no reason or justification to doubt the legitimacy of his views. He came to America to leave behind oppression and a lack of freedom and saw that same direction in the Democrats and their extreme liberalism. His ability to recognize rather quickly the balance of liberties and responsibility in the Republican Party speaks highly on his behalf. Those of you speaking ill of him are shameful for ridiculing him.

-Patrick Callahan (interviewed above)
Lighten up
By nwourms Jun 30th 2005 at 9:01 pm EDT
Wow, being watched by the watched, eh? First, your taking “offense” decries your ignorance of the PRC-Chinese -> Taiwan-Chinese relationship. I will not go into detail, but I actually have a group of friends which contains persons from both places. Let me say that bringing up a sensitive subject like the PRC when we are together in the same room is a sure way to get a very heated, combative argument going. So, I’m not surprised by what the poster said, I’ve heard each side call the other much, much worse.

I must take issue, however, with this BS on liberals desire to support opression. Who supports China the most? Who undermines our U.S. industries by continuing to allow unfettered free trade with the Chinese, even when it is obvious that they are cheating and won't play by the rules? Who failed to hold the Chinese to their promise of improving human rights when Clinton gave them most favored trade status in 2000 (it's 2005, we're still waiting)? Who looks the other way while the Chinese Central Bank artificially suppresses its currency in order to undermine US exports? Who looks the other way while the Chinese illegally dump steel into our market, thereby making the supply skyrocket and the cost of steel artificially lower than the cost for the U.S. steel manufacturers to produce it? Who continues to sell billions in U.S. Treasury bonds to China, in essence giving the Chinese leverage in our foreign policy decisions? Who continues to kiss the Chinese Premier's ass every time he pops in for a visit? It seems to me that the only ones who are supporting the oppression in China are the Republicans. The Democrats tried a carrot and stick approach in order to get China to reform. When GWB got in, he just removed the stick and left the carrot. If Jim really cared about his people, then he would not be supporting a party which is intent on propping up the Chinese "so-called Communist" Party leadership in China.

Today, the Republicans once again voted to keep the embargo on Cuba. My question is: why do Republicans believe that a fully open free market can fix China but can’t fix Cuba? But then again, putting profit ahead of everything else is what you guys are all about and there’s no profit to be made in Cuba, right?
  
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