Why college homosexuals are at fault ...
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Often the charge on us Democrats is that we don't have a vision, or in some cases, the fact that we aren't courageous enough to stand up and speak against the right and say that the right is, indeed, wrong for America ...
I don't find that to be true, especially in a college setting.
The truth is that we do have ideas and visions - but it is also the truth that we are not united.
While the Republicans here at Old Dominion are working together to -as a source has it - monopolize the conservative culture on campus,
I find that we Democrats are out there fighting the fights on our own.
I would suspect it's the same with all the campuses across the country.
Here, the College Democrats seem to have their own agenda. The gay and lesbian organization seems to have its own agenda as well.
Civil rights organizations, minority student organizations and a handful other organizations with great ideas and visions are working on their own.
As a result, our voices are drowned out - in fact, we don't even really have a voice. We are often seen as a bunch of "liberal fucks" on a quite conservative campus, doing our silly own little things.
The worst part is because of that, we lose (actually lack - since to lose, we first need to have gained) credibility and nothing gets accomplished.
Of all the mentioned organization, the gay and lesbian one is probably one that should take the most blame.
Yes, Virginia is a conservative (forget what anyone tells you about it being a swing state), but things can still get accomplished. In fact, students here have a chance to make history.
On the ballot for our November election is a bill that would define marriage as a union between a man and a woman. For the life of me, I cannot understand why or how that organization is still sitting on its ass.
I approached the president of the organization with the idea of having a "million people" march on campus, to show support for the gay and lesbian community. I've not heard back from him.
If I, a straight liberal from California whose life won't be the least bit affected by this bill, am concerned about it, then why are they sitting on their asses?
It seems the Democrats, liberals and gays here like to whine - but that's all they really do.
Simply wearing rainbow colored shirts and congregating to watch gay pride movies isn't enough to change anything for the better.
They must take actions - not just on this campus, but every other campus in America.
What are the gay organizations on your campus doing? Here at my campus, it seems like the organization is just an under-ambitious pick-up joint.
I don't find that to be true, especially in a college setting.
The truth is that we do have ideas and visions - but it is also the truth that we are not united.
While the Republicans here at Old Dominion are working together to -as a source has it - monopolize the conservative culture on campus,
I find that we Democrats are out there fighting the fights on our own.
I would suspect it's the same with all the campuses across the country.
Here, the College Democrats seem to have their own agenda. The gay and lesbian organization seems to have its own agenda as well.
Civil rights organizations, minority student organizations and a handful other organizations with great ideas and visions are working on their own.
As a result, our voices are drowned out - in fact, we don't even really have a voice. We are often seen as a bunch of "liberal fucks" on a quite conservative campus, doing our silly own little things.
The worst part is because of that, we lose (actually lack - since to lose, we first need to have gained) credibility and nothing gets accomplished.
Of all the mentioned organization, the gay and lesbian one is probably one that should take the most blame.
Yes, Virginia is a conservative (forget what anyone tells you about it being a swing state), but things can still get accomplished. In fact, students here have a chance to make history.
On the ballot for our November election is a bill that would define marriage as a union between a man and a woman. For the life of me, I cannot understand why or how that organization is still sitting on its ass.
I approached the president of the organization with the idea of having a "million people" march on campus, to show support for the gay and lesbian community. I've not heard back from him.
If I, a straight liberal from California whose life won't be the least bit affected by this bill, am concerned about it, then why are they sitting on their asses?
It seems the Democrats, liberals and gays here like to whine - but that's all they really do.
Simply wearing rainbow colored shirts and congregating to watch gay pride movies isn't enough to change anything for the better.
They must take actions - not just on this campus, but every other campus in America.
What are the gay organizations on your campus doing? Here at my campus, it seems like the organization is just an under-ambitious pick-up joint.
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Also, how the hell do you know whether or not they're politically active outside of their campus gay organization?
As for a pick-up society, if there's anyone who needs one, wouldn't it be gays and lesbians? Given that 90% of the population isn't gay, my gay and lesbian friends report finding it incredibly difficult to know who is and who isn't for purposes of dating and all that general college-life goodness. A group of like-oriented individuals is important for experiencing that part of college, and that's a challenge straight people never have to deal with.
Oh, and nice lumping all college gays and lesbians together in the title of your post. Casual stereotyping is charming!
One possibility is that all the talk from the right about 'family values' and the primacy of the family doesn't resonate with people not living as part of a traditional nuclear family.
Also, maybe the people most directly affected by the gay rights struggle are more likely to sympathize with the liberal position on other civil rights issues because they are able to relate to what other minority groups contend with.
Setting aside the Right Wing hijacking of the term for their own bigoted ends: Would anyone here seriously disagree here with family values (broadly understood) and the primacy of the family?
Also, since when is family values and the primacy of the family a conservative concept? We're the ones who fight for family values, not them.
Those "other civil rights issues" would be...?
The other day I was hanging out with my cousin and some of his friends as we repaired the dock behind my late grandparents' house. One of them saw the "DEM" sticker on the back of my Wrangler and said, "Dude, you're actually a Democrat?" I said yes. He shook his head and said, "I can't imagine that." I asked why not. He said, "I guess I'm more into traditional values. Traditional values are strong with me." (Mind you, he was very, very stoned at the time--another traditional value in the South--and we were on our third or fourth round of PBR, which is critical to any home improvement operation involving a Sawzall) I looked him in the eye and defied him to explain what he meant by "traditional values." He couldn't.
The point being, of course, that there is no broadly understood notion of family values, just as there is no broadly understood notion of traditional values. The phrase is as devoid of meaning as "I love freedom."
For my money, I go by Barney's definition:
Even so, I think you're missing the point a bit. When Repubs talk about family values, they're tacitly endorsing one of many living arrangements. They are speaking to middle-to-upper-income exurb-dwelling nuclear families, and it doesn't seem like they're ever actually speaking to, say, single, gay, urban men.
The value our society and government places on the traditional family is evident in things such as the tax code. Our government caters to families but often fails to accomodate 'alternative' living arrangements.
'Alternative' living arrangements don't just include gay couples living together - it could also be single-parent families, or two spinster sisters like Patty and Selma living together. I would even go so far as to say that some Republicans actually hate living arrangements other than the traditional nuclear family (just think of all the vitriol they spew over single moms). I have to imagine that homosexuals don't really respond well to politicians who link the decline of the traditional family to the supposed decline of morality in America.
Finally, I use 'civil rights' issues as a shorthand for pretty much any measure that seeks to attain equality for historically disadvantaged groups. Examples would be affirmative action and legislation promoting wage parity between men and women. I can't claim that I know for sure that gay people are more likely than straight people to support such policies, but my purpose is only to offer some possible answers to your original question.