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Let the arguments be rejoined! Courtney Martin responds here to an earlier piece of mine lambasting an earlier piece of hers and, well, that’s the internet for you. But I couldn’t resist getting back in the mix with a rebuttal to Martin’s most recent arguments.

I’ll take points one, two and three in succession:

  • Martin says I misrepresent her appreciation for sixties-style political activism, quoting an earlier piece voicing doubts about protest marches. Fine with me, but why did her article explicitly call for acts of political theater, from sit-ins to danceathons, and implicitly endorse the activities of groups like the Weather Underground and the Black Panther party? As always, read it and judge my assertion for yourself. Nonetheless, for Martin, it seems that reinventing activism for our generation means doing the same old thing, but on the Internet.
  • Martin notes that the schools she visits on her paid speaking tours aren’t “elite institutions.” If she chosen not to rely on generalizations in her article, and instead talked specifically about what and who she had seen, and where she had seen it (“reporting”), I wouldn’t have had those misconceptions. She also neglects to respond to the real point in the sentence she cites: Only 21 percent of 18-29 year-olds go to college but the rest count as youth, too. That’s reflective of the general population, as the most recent census reveals that barely a quarter of the U.S. adult population has a bachelor’s degree or higher. I’d call the top 24 percent of educated people in our country an elite, whether they go to an expensive private University or state school.
  • Martin points out that she’s reported on successful youth activism in the past, at my own university and around the country. I’m glad she’s aware of youth activists, but I’m left with the following question, Courtney: If you knew about these activists, how come they didn’t make it into your article entitled “The Problem with Youth Activism”?


When use youth voting and political participation as evidence of youth political success, Martin writes that I’m buying into the “safe, the institutional, the domestic” way of changing the political world. But that’s exactly when she sounds like she’s getting her AARP magazine: When she looks through that sixties lens that says working within the system isn’t working at all. But I’d argue—and I know my more radical friends might disagree with me, and occasionally be right—that the ability for young people to work powerfully within the system was one of the victories of that golden age of youth activism. Martin does right to recognize that “our generation has a more pragmatic, educated approach to change than our parents ever did. We are far more effective in so many ways,” even if sometimes she seems to forget it.

In all fairness, Martin writes that she’s trying to shine a light on students who don’t feel like they have the power to create change in the political and social arenas, and for that I commend her, even if I disagree about how many people actually comprise that segment of the population. But she should direct students towards useful and powerful means of self-expression (ahem, Campus Progress, ahem) and not towards activities that waste time and effort. She also suggests that I ask the non-involved why they’re, well, not involved. That’s a worthwhile project. I just wish she’d done it in her own piece on the same subject; indeed, she asked everyone from psychologists to national organizations to herself, but never seemed to level the question at a real life apathetic student. So if we’re agreeing to disagree, let’s also agree not to try to speak for our generation. We can only try to be as accurate as we can when we report on it.  
 


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Martin vs. Fernholz
By JP McGrail Dec 10th 2007 at 5:37 am EST
Let me say that I have really enjoyed both the tone and the high level at which this battle was joined. Both writers used evidence and logic to duke out the controversial area of where youth activism is today.
I'm a professor (yeah, one of them ol' white dudes) with a perspective on this.
First, I'm not old enough to know how things were done in the 60s. I was just a kid then. What I can comment on is activism today. The problem is that here, I mostly agree with Courtney Martin. She's right - kids today frequently have a fatalist outlook with a default cynicism about politics and civic life that is difficult to deal with. At the same time, American society is just plain worse today than it was back in the 60s in so many ways. Sure, certain important things have improved - the way blacks, Hispanics and Asians are treated, to say nothing about the greatly increased opportunities for women - but the tenor, the quality of society has declined greatly. Part of this is that the suspicion that Martin identifies that external forces are in control is not so very wrong. A surveillance society, federal law enforcement with unchecked power, corporate consolidation, the media controlled by 5 corporations - that's a lot more powers that be that students have to fight.
But another thing is that we have so constrained students with you can't do this and you mustn't do that that the average student knows that going along to get along is the slogan of the day. With skyrocketing real estate (yes, prices have fallen slightly, but they will still forever prevent most people from ever owning property in New York, San Francisco, L.A., etc.) the coming collapse of Social Security, young people suspect, and I think quite rightly, that the good times are over. Unless they inherit mom and dad's McMansion, they will never own their own home.
So while I agree with Martin, I will say something few older people have ever said before - I wouldn't be a young person today for all the tea in China. And I understand they have quite a bit.
  
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