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Ralph Nader Enters the Race, But Can Americans Appreciate That?
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This morning Ralph Nader entered the 2008 Presidential Election contest in the United States.

What are the implications for this? It's difficult to say. A lot of it depends on public reaction.

There's a significant part of the public that blames Ralph for Al Gore's loss in 2000. This part of the population usually ignores that 250,000 registered Democrats voted for George Bush in Florida that same year, or that tens of thousands of African Americans were illegally thrown off voting rolls that year, or that Gore failed to pick up his own state or Clinton's state, or that Supreme Court decision thing. No, Ralph becomes the culprit.

I think one reason why Nader is blamed so much for 2000 when actual illegal acts committed by Katherine Harris and her cohort Jeb Bush don't get nearly as much condemnation is because Ralph and the Greens are easy to blame. They aren't corporate-backed boardroom executives floating Presidential runs (which is essentialy what Gore, Kerry, Bush, Obama, McCain, and Clinton are). They're just some folks who thought they'd hold the mainstream to account by running themselves -- you know, anyone's allowed to run for President. That's called democracy.

So if the American people can actually open their minds enough to have an actual democratic race, with multiple competitive candidates -- not just the candidates who bend to the will of corporate power or who can amass half a billion dollar campaigns -- then maybe Nader will have a signficant impact.

He'll be able to be a majoritarian voice on single-payer healthcare, on ending Taft-Hartley, on securing full gay rights, on a balanced solution to Israel-Palestine, on pushing full public funding of all elections, to real solutions about corporate control of our democracy.

It's true there's a difference between McCain and Obama. But if you look at, say, Political Compass, they're still quite close in ideology. And there's certain things - like the War on Drugs - that they won't even touch. If this is a decent democracy, if all the people who have fought and died for this country mean anything at all, then those things should be allowed to be on the table in this election (and debated). Ralph has always been a powerful voice for justice and citizen-led democracy. Let's see to it at progressives that he is allowed to speak in this election, even if his primary purpose is to push the major candidates towards issues that all of us care about but which never seem to appear in our corporate contes- I mean, elections.


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Anything but another 2000
By Christy Feb 24th 2008 at 4:46 pm EST
"even if his primary purpose is to push the major candidates towards issues that all of us care about but which never seem to appear in our corporate contes- I mean, elections."

John Edwards tried to do the very same thing, and look at what happened to him. The corporate media punished him for that by refusing to cover him, which in the end forced him to quit the race.
Ralph Nader is indeed part of the reason why Al Gore lost in 2000. True, there was a lot of fishy business going on in Florida and all that. However, had there been a true, decisive majority for Gore, it would not have been that easy to steal the election the way it was.
Ralph Nader should know by now that he can't win, and should have stayed out of this campaign instead of taking votes away from the other candidates. We don't need another Supreme Court-appointed minority president.
Re: Anything but another 2000
By persiancowboy Feb 26th 2008 at 3:06 am EST
Ralph Nader knows that he can't win, but he is running for other reasons. He is going to use the little media and campaign attention he will get by running for president to promote all the things mentioned above such as the single payer health care system, lower military budget, impeachment and other things that the other candidates don't even talk about. As Nader said yesterday, "If the Democrats can't landslide the Republicans this year, they ought to just wrap up, close down, emerge in a different form."

Also for your information there are tons of evidence suggesting that Ralph Nader did not have a major impact in the 2000 election. As Zaid said of course it is always easy to blame him for all your problems. Exit polls by Democratic pollster Stan Greenberg did show that 25 percent of Nader voters would have voted for Bush, 38 percent would have voted for Gore, and the rest would not have voted at all. So Nader has a very wide range of supporters.
Re: Anything but another 2000
By Christy Feb 26th 2008 at 6:49 pm EST
"As Zaid said of course it is always easy to blame him for all your problems."

I'm not blaming Nader for any of "my problems". However, it is true that all he ever achieves by running for president is to take votes away from the Democrats (who desperately need them). A vote for Nader is a vote for, in this case, McCain.
In 2004, the Democrats (remembering 2000) literally begged Nader not to run again, and he still did. Okay, that was then; but after two unsuccessful tries he should have known not to run again.
Re: Anything but another 2000
By Zaid Feb 26th 2008 at 7:41 pm EST
John Edwards did not seriously talk about corporate America; it was all rhetoric and most liberals I know saw through it. They know Edwards was always a center-right Democrat and that's why he didn't win -- because enough primary voters remember his support for a war we all hated.
Re: Anything but another 2000
By Christy Feb 27th 2008 at 1:23 pm EST
"because enough primary voters remember his support for a war we all hated."

Yes, John Edwards voted for the war. FYI, so did Hillary Clinton. He has aplogized for his vote and admitted that it was a mistake. She has not. By your logic, then, she should not have gotten any primary votes either.
And no, it's not all rhetoric. Did you ever see John Edwards giving a speech (I mean live, not on TV)? I have. He does believe in the things he says.
Re: Anything but another 2000
By Zaid from UGA May 15th 2008 at 12:45 pm EDT
You don't judge how well a candidate does by the passion of their speech. I met Elizabeth and saw John speak in person. He's not all that serious.
  
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