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The New York Times reported today on a poll conducted by New America Media, a coalition of ethnic news organizations, that attempted to gauge minority perceptions— about each other.  The poll surveyed African-Americans, Hispanics (I use this word because the poll did not say “Latino”) and Asians on various economic and social issues, and directly asked groups questions about other minority groups.  The findings are quite interesting—for example, the groups that likely have more immigrant members, Asian and Hispanic, seemed to have more faith in the so-called “American dream,” that if one works hard one will succeed economically.  African-Americans, on the other hand, were far less likely to agree.  Asians were also by far the least likely to indicate that their community experienced significant discrimination in the U.S., while contrastingly 92% of African-Americans responded in the affirmative.



There are obvious flaws in this survey, and the findings should certainly be taken with a grain of salt.  One of the most glaring questions I have in terms of the poll’s methodology was self-identification of respondents.  The three communities surveyed are extremely diverse—for example, there are a significant number of Latin and Caribbean people of African descent.  Who decides which category a person fits into?  Rather than relying only on these three broad groupings of “race,” the poll would be more useful if immigration status and socio-economic class background were also reported.

 

The poll is most interesting in its questions asked about other minority groups—attempting to measure whether the stereotypes of Black crime, undocumented Latin workers taking away jobs, and rude/racist Asian store owners actually have a hold over other minority groups.  Some of the statistics are indeed disheartening.  However, I think honest discussion of racism and other types of prejudice within and among communities of color is extremely important, particularly when we are trying to organize broad grassroots coalitions.  We also need to be aware of how prejudice within our communities has served to bolster white supremacy and continue oppression, such as in the labor movement.  But we cannot pretend that our experiences with racism are the same.  We do need to examine our own prejudices and enter into honest dialogue with each other before we can unite against racial discrimination and oppression.


Reader Comments
  
brown vs bored with education
By Rajiv Dec 13th 2007 at 10:44 pm EST
I think because of differing socially and structurally perpetuated pathologies on education a disparity exists amongst minority groups on the value of hard work yielding economic success.

The Truly Disadvantaged by Willam Julius Wilson is takes a great look into this concept in urban america.

As far as examining my predjudices on this subject
I am not Black, Latino, and sometimes have tough time calling myself Asian. Like the columnist said, there are so many intricacies to defining race, that the term loses meaning except for the purpose of academic and social grouping. The grouping in this survey serves the purpose of dividing minority groups along affiliations to a white majority. Is this norm justly appropriated??/ Maybe not.. but was I biting any hands by saying that?... Exactly my point.

In doing a survey on the differences African Americans, Latinos, and Asians see between each other, none of these groups stand to benefit from this study.
Re: brown vs bored with education
By Ramya's Brother Dec 14th 2007 at 10:29 pm EST
How have you, Ashwini, native of India, experienced divisions between American people from your homeland that benefit white suppremacy?
  
Heh
By Superduperficial Dec 14th 2007 at 12:10 am EST
""The three communities surveyed are extremely diverse—for example, there are a significant number of Latin and Caribbean people of African descent.""

And, oddly enough, they're about the single most racist group toward what we usually refer to as 'African Americans' that you'll ever meet.
Re: Heh
By ashwini Dec 14th 2007 at 12:45 pm EST
yes there is certainly prejudice that I have seen among Latin and Caribbean Black people--but can you honestly say that this prejudice is even close to the harm caused by the "group" that started the transcontinental slave trade, lynchings of thousands of Black men, and the rape of millions of Black enslaved women??

Give me a fucking break.
Re: Heh
By Superduperficial Dec 14th 2007 at 1:28 pm EST
...Huh?

Did anyone say it was?
Re: Heh
By ashwini Dec 14th 2007 at 3:34 pm EST
you said they're the "single most racist group"

I find that crazy.
Re: Heh
By Superduperficial Dec 14th 2007 at 8:19 pm EST
Get 10 random white people in a room. Get 10 random Latinos in a room. Get 10 random Jews, 10 random East Asians, and whoever else. Then, get ten random African-Americans of Caribbean descent.

Ask each random sampling what they think about African Americans. Dollars to donuts, you're going to get the most racism from that last group.
  
devide and conquer
By pennyjane Dec 16th 2007 at 12:24 pm EST
a well worn, proven strategy for the ages. even when they don't devide us we will do it ourselves. i give you the recent enda debacle. the t's are so furious with the gays we may become their most outspoken detracters. the right wing didn't do it, george bush didn't do it.....we did it ourselves, that is....they did it to us....those darn uppity gays!
  
Method
By N.Raider Dec 16th 2007 at 1:45 pm EST
How was the poll conducted? I couldn't find it on the website. Unless we can answer this question, we should not trust that the poll is reflective of the entire population.

For instance, Asians are "less likely" to say they are discriminated against. The majority of Asians in the United States are not Southeast Asians and Pacific Islanders. Would they agree with their East and South Asian counterparts about discrimination? Does the aggregate number of responses reflect the sub-groups within the classification of "Asian"?
  
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