Straight-Shooting Xenophobe
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I was thrilled when I found out that my grandmother's interest in politics had been reignited by the Plame Leak scandal last Fall. Every day she looks forward to watching the news. Lou Dobbs, she says, is a straight-shooter that isn't swayed by corporate interests or party politics. Having never watched Dobbs before, I have been shocked and dismayed over what I have seen in the last week in a half. Dobbs is simply a conservative man in liberal's clothing who builds his entire broadcast on xenophobic ideals and basks in the limelight as a "straight shooter" because he will criticize the current administration.
Don't get me wrong, I'm entirely for free speech. I think it's essential that the media present as many points of view as they possibly can (even though they rarely actually do).
Dobbs, however, does more harm than good. He does the public a disservice by completely mischaracterizing the immigration debate. Claiming that "radical factions" have taken control of the movement, Dobbs argues that only people with "special interests" or "corporate influence" are for open borders. He claims that the interest in dealing with the immigration problem is purely many companies fighting to continue keeping low-wage workers. His argument is, functionally, a marginally more sophisticated but equally xenophobic version of "they're stealing our jobs". Anyone who examines the economic effects of suddenly deporting 12 million people is, according to Dobbs, simply bowing to corporate pressure.
This biased opinion is bolstered by equally biased and unscientific polls that frequent his show. Claiming that a Guest Worker Policy is against the will of the people, Dobbs argues that Americans "in poll after poll and survey after survey" have shown that they are "opposed to illegal immigration". Well, that's not hard. I'm sure that most people will admit to erring on the side of the law in most cases. However, saying that people are against amnesty or making the citizenship requirements easier simply because they're against illegal immigration is a basic logical fallacy. Dobbs not only doesn't cite direct data, he doesn't even cite precise or vague sources of any kind for these polls.
He also has polls of his own, which include such unbiased questions as "Before even discussing so-called comprehensive immigration reform, do you believe the president and Congress should first be required to uphold the current laws of the United States which compel them to enforce our borders and uphold our existing immigration laws? Yes or no." Clearly, in order to get a true picture of what people want in immigration reform, you should ask them whether or not Congress should behave legally.
Remember, amnesty is not an option. Dobbs points out that
Schwarzenegger invokes Ronald Reagan's name to declare that we can have immigration policies that both strengthen our borders and welcomes immigrants.
No, Governor, we can't.
He continues by saying that securing our borders is key to any effective immigration policy. While I agree that secure borders are a priority, I object to the basic logical principles of Dobbs' argument. Maybe I've spent a bit too much time studying for the LSATs lately, but it is quite evident to me that Dobbs is operating on a flawed premise. Yes, Mr. Dobbs, we CAN have immigration policies that both strengthen our borders and welcome immigrants. Perhaps this comes in strengthening our ports. Maybe it's a Guest Worker Program, or maybe it's in making the path to citizenship easier to encourage people to actually take the legal and legitimate path to life in the United States. However, there is no concrete reason why strengthening our borders requires adopting the xenophobic and uninformed attitude that Dobbs proposes.

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hmm
By chicagogal May 15th 2006 at 8:40 pm EDT
"Yes, Mr. Dobbs, we CAN have immigration policies that both strengthen our borders and welcome immigrants. Perhaps this comes in strengthening our ports."

For the record, I dont think Lou Dobbs disagrees with you. To assume that Lou is a xenophobe is just as dismissive as calling him a racist. I agree with a lot of things he says, having come from a working class family. The fact that some radical factions agree with him on different premises does not make him wrong. Radical factions agree with me that the Iraq war is wrong, but for different reasons.

Having read Exporting America, I see Dobbs as much as pro-immigration as I am. We just don't see illegal immigration as the answer.
Re: hmm
By meganjbrock May 15th 2006 at 10:40 pm EDT
I also come from a working class family, and I don't see illegal immigration as the answer. However, I find Dobbs' solution to be dismissive of important aspects of the problem (like the economic aspect), and that quote was in specific response to his quote regarding Schwarzenegger ("Schwarzenegger invokes Ronald Reagan's name to declare that we can have immigration policies that both strengthen our borders and welcomes immigrants.
No, Governor, we can't."). I think that setting immigration as a zero-sum game where it's either all illegal immigration with no border security at all or strong borders without "welcoming immigrants" is a mischaracterization of the issue.
Re: hmm
By chicagogal May 16th 2006 at 1:33 am EDT
I'm not sure I'm entirely following you, with all due respect. I dont think Lou Dobbs advocates an all or nothing policy. I do think he is a straight-shooter. My mind is always open to be changed, but as of right now, I give a lot of credence to what he says.
Re: hmm
By meganjbrock May 16th 2006 at 9:19 am EDT
His literal quotes seem to point to a belief in an all or nothing policy.
Re: hmm
By chicagogal May 16th 2006 at 1:33 am EDT
do you honestly chalk up his beliefs to xenophobia, and I guess in that case mine?
Re: hmm
By jr May 16th 2006 at 3:38 am EDT
Personally, I always assumed Lou's beliefs on immigration were based much more in demagoguery than in xenophobia...
Re: hmm
By meganjbrock May 16th 2006 at 9:18 am EDT
i don't think his beliefs are entirely based in xenophobia, but I do think that they're indicative of some degree of it. I think that presenting immigration as a problem that must be eliminated, rather than solved, is posing the problem in the incorrect terms.
While there are non-xenophobic means of defending his arguments, I have yet to see Dobbs employ them.
Re: hmm
By mattbors May 16th 2006 at 9:34 am EDT
I think that presenting immigration as a problem that must be eliminated, rather than solved, is posing the problem in the incorrect terms.



Correct me if I'm wrong, but does Dobbs advocate eliminating immigration completely? As far as I know he is very hard-lined on illeagal immigrants, but doesn't think we should literally not allow one new pweson in here.
Re: hmm
By meganjbrock May 16th 2006 at 10:19 am EDT
From what I have seen on his show in the past week and a half and the articles that I linked in this post, I think that Dobbs does little to defend keeping immigration around, but that wasn't the point of my comment.
Dobbs is unwilling to compromise on the immigration issue and completely dismisses anyone's economic arguments as to why deporting the estimated 12 million people is a bad idea. He views illegal immigrants as a population that should be sent away rather than dealt with.
Maybe I'm wrong, and I'll admit that I didn't start researching Dobbs' stance on this issue until a week and a half ago. However, I have yet to see or read anything from Dobbs contrary to my perception of his stance. I would be thrilled to read anything like that, so link away! :)
  
My problem with Lou
By jr May 16th 2006 at 2:24 pm EDT
...is that he, like the President, believes in a nonexistant, illogical and anti-historical concept of assimilation. Remember his comments about the Irish flag at St Patrick's Day parades? That was based in his false understanding of how immigration has historically worked and will always work in a pluralist society--immigrants come, bringing with them their customs and traditions, many of which will continue for countless generations, some of which will be absorbed into the larger national culture.

At what level is an immigrant considered "assimilated"? Are there varying degrees of assimilation, or is it zero-sum? Is it language that matters, or republicanism? Is it an acceptance of "Americanism" in whatever ascriptive form it happens to take in any given era? Are we making the Weberian argument that language homogeneity is the equivalent of national identity, or is there more to American culture than language? How do you codify something like that? Is it necessary to say "Happy Fifth of May" instead of "Happy Cinco de Mayo," or is the very recognition of the holiday itself a crime against American national identity (like Mr. Dobbs believes)?

Henry Ford used to have compulsory English classes for his foreign workers that didn't know English. The very first phrase they were taught is "I am a good American." Is it the case that learning that one phrase of English is enough to make someone a "good American," or is there a deeper understanding of Americanism required for that sentence to be true? If a deeper understanding is required, are we presuming that such an understanding can only come though speaking English and eating turkey every November?

"Assimilated" is a bogus concept, as ascriptive and malleable as any other label we affix concerning ideals. It's like Potter Stewart's individualistic and subjective definition of pornography--we know it when we see it.
  
Question:
By Superduperficial May 16th 2006 at 6:48 pm EDT
Lou Dobbs, she says, is a straight-shooter that isn't swayed by corporate interests or party politics.



How in the world does this make one a "straight shooter"? It just means he's pandering to different interests - the interests of those who watch his show. Also, anyone who doesn't take into account American business interests in their political decisionmaking and opinionmaking is either dangerously stupid or just trying to demagogue. Or both.
Re: Question:
By meganjbrock May 16th 2006 at 10:07 pm EDT
It's not that he denies the existance of corporate interests. Actually, he's one of few hosts that I have seen who fully admit and discuss the corporate interests. The problem comes in the fact that he relies too fully on that aspect of politics: he'll place arguments like those regarding the economic effects of deportation as part of "corporate influence", rather than as legitimate points that need to be considered.
I think my grandmother thinks that he's a straight-shooter because he's critical and examines the corporate influence in DC. I'm really not quite sure.
  
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