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Deborah Siegel, the author of Sisterhood Interrupted: From Radical Women to Grrls Gone Wild, has an excellent review of Wendy Shalit's new book, Girls Gone Mild: Young Women Reclaim Self-Respect and Find It's Not Bad to Be Good up at The American Prospect today. She touches on some very good points that moralizing can be a difficult topic to broach: 

To me, ethics and morality apply to the way we craft our arguments. More moral dichotomizing is hardly what women, what girls, what any of us need now.

I agree. It's hard enough to be a young woman these days, with all kinds of social pressure about what grades we're supposed to get (good ones), how many sexual partners we're supposed to have (not many), the way we're supposed to look (sexy), and how much we're supposed to weigh (the less, the better). Piled on top of that, Siegel says that Schalit adopts a lot of the language the Christian right has been using for the last 15 years to push young women to adopt the virgin model.

What women need is to realize that they can break outside of stereotypes and forge their own thoughts, styles, and moralities. Young women need a more supportive environment rather than another pile of lectures. 


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Interesting...
By Superduperficial Aug 14th 2007 at 7:05 pm EDT
...When you say "It's hard to be a young woman these days", as opposed to simply "It's hard to be young" (And I'd disagree with that - frankly, I don't think it's that hard to be either a young woman or a young man at present), you're implying that young women have a rougher time of it than young men. Frankly, I think that's incorrect.

""all kinds of social pressure about what grades we're supposed to get (good ones),""

Notice how you unconsciously assume your social-class-stratified experiences were/are universal.

That said, shockingly enough, there's pressure on guys to get good grades too.

""how many sexual partners we're supposed to have (not many),""

There are pressures on both men and women to behave in certain ways when it comes to sexuality. Neither of them have it terribly rough in the grand scheme of things (Hint: Basing your self esteem on what other people think of you isn't a great way to get through life).

""the way we're supposed to look (sexy),""

Again, says who? This utterly smacks of pressure that *you're* placing on *yourself*, which is patent bullshit that nobody else is responsible for but you.

To the extent that there are expectations of dress (again, minor) foisted on you by society, buying into them is entirely up to you.

My girlfriend has very high expectations for how I dress and groom myself. So? I choose to buy into that by dating her.

""and how much we're supposed to weigh (the less, the better).""

Again, this is (And I am sorry to use the term, but I lost most of my patience for this sort of self-pity a long time ago) bullshit you're foisting onto yourself. And, shock of shocks, men have expectations about how their bodies, too.

Ever go to the gym at your college? The guys you see there lifting weights and running on the track aren't there because they're picking up valuable life skills - they're sweating it out because conforming to a certain body image will get them, well, laid. (And give them a better shot at finding love, for that matter -- studies show that physical attractiveness is the top criteria for predicting how successful a first date will be.)

There isn't quite the same well-established self-pity industry surrounding them, though.
Re: Interesting...
By Nicole Aug 15th 2007 at 1:47 am EDT
I don't think the point of the post is that only women have it hard but she's talking about a book that is supposed to be about women and telling them how to behave; and you see books and articles (and general discussion) more often about how women "should" be more than you see the same about how men "should" be.

It doesn't necessarily have to be about self esteem, it could just be frustration or all out anger about the fact that most people in society and society at large still feels the need/desire to try and tell women how to behave, act, look, think etc.

And many people buy into this stuff and it's easier to ignore it as you get older but you can't ignore that it still has an effect on the way many people think about (and therefore treat) women.
Re: Interesting...
By Nicole Aug 15th 2007 at 1:59 am EDT
Also, forget about girls thinking they have to look sexy; what about a girl who wants to look sexy but has to face the risk because of guys who think girls who want to percieved as sexy are somehow implying they also want to be disrespected? Or that if a girl has had more than the "appropriate number" of partners than it's okay to harrass her (if not something worse)?

The standards set for women aren't all matters of self esteem, there are very real, serious issues that arise from the way women are percieved and it's very common and in many cases it has nothign to do with how the woman in question feels about herself.

And while grown women may have an easier time dealing with these things, a young girl will cope with it much harder. Girls are much more likely to internalize problems which is partially why they are more likely to become depressed and/or have serious disorders that often stem from body issues and the way they are treated and "expected" to look and behave. And just saying "don't let it bother you, be more secure in yourself" isn't enough to make that go away.
Re: Interesting...
By Annika Aug 15th 2007 at 10:12 am EDT
Implying that Kay's observations are markers of her own insecurity is, to use your words, "patent bullshit"--assuming that a writer's observations about societal pressure indicates a personal submission to that pressure is a leap good readers don't make.

While men certainly feel pressured to get good grades, look hot and work out, women have to get better grades, look hotter and be thinner in order to be accepted on par with men.

And arguing that we should all just stop caring about those things is a cop out--do you know any 13 year old girls? Try telling them that their desire to have friends is "bullshit."
  
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