| By levinson.eric - Feb 2nd, 2006 at 1:50 pm EST |
William:
Let me qualify my remarks by saying that I am sincerely not out to attack you personally. However, I do feel like I am "investigating" a certain kind of mentality, an approach to understanding things, a way of thinking, that you do seem from time to time to personify and display, and I believe, as a philosopher, that we all (humanity) need to take a good look at this kind of approach to the world -- which can be said to be prominent throughout Western philosophy over the centuries--so we can understand it, critique it, and then temper it with other ways of thinking.
Your terse responses are excellent in exhibiting this kind of thinking.
For example, your last statement, below, shows classical binary, either/or dualism:
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006, WILLIAM MARTIN wrote:
"The study by the MIT sponsored structural engineers must be taken seriously. You cannot ignore it. Either you must say that they, MIT and Scientific American were in on the conspiracy or they are all incompetent.
These people have nothing to do with either Bush or the government."
We MUST say EITHER a certain group of people were "in the conspiracy" OR "they were all incompetent"?
Well, not necessarily. As I watch with interest the emerging epistemic gap that has sprung up between what I happen to know about particular issues and what the official SPIN is, I am also noticing how many people, even among my friends and colleagues, are struggling within themselves to deal with the cognitive dissonance. As a teacher of Existentialism, I would say this kind of psychological struggle can lead to what Jean-Paul Sartre calls "bad faith," often defined as self-deception, though I think this definition misses some subtleties. At least for a certain period of time, the individual cannot handle the conflicting beliefs, cannot process them into an integrated understanding of "reality," and so they are blocked from full conscious attention.
The picture is further complicated when we add in social psychology (which Sartre also addressed in his later writings). There are many examples, both real-world and experimental, that demonstrate how strongly individual humans are influenced by the beliefs and emotional biases of others in their own "group," however that may be defined. The Solomon Asch experiments show that many people will go against the testimony of their own eyes to say that the shorter line is the longest line on a diagram, in order to conform to the stated beliefs of others in a group of strangers, just so they will "fit in" and be accepted by the group. The "bystander and victim" experiments by Latane and Darley demonstrate that the willingness of an experimental subject to help in response to cries of pain from another person drops from 70% to 7% when an unresponsive "stooge" is present (the real-world Kitty Genovese tragedy set the stage for these experiments). The Obedience experiments of Stanley Milgram and the Stanford Prison Experiment of Philip Zimbardo are well known and were in the news again when the Abu Ghraib story first broke. The social psychology of Hitler's rise to power and the abuses that occurred under the Nazi regime are also well known and well studied -- I include a section examining the deeds of the Nazi doctors in my bioethics classes. The conclusion? Even very "moral" people will do shocking things that violate their own ethical values when subject to social pressures -- even fairly mild pressures, it seems.
Putting these things together, it should not be surprising that questions about what happened on 9/11, or questions about lots of other shameful situations, from the persistent denial of global climate change to the "let's look the other way" attitude many share with respect to "mad cow disease" in the United States, are being actively suppressed, held just below the level of conscious thought, by the vast majority of people in this country. These are ideas that "must not be thought"--because to entertain even for a few moments the notion that perhaps our own government may have callously allowed, or even set up, thousands of Americans to die in order to facilitate its own agenda is simply too horrible to bear right now.
So, no, I don't think it's correct to say that the scientists and engineers at MIT or associated with Scientific American or Popular Mechanics are either in on the conspiracry or incompetent. They are subject to the same sorts of internal and external psychological tensions that we all are, plus they may have additional, more specific pressures regarding federal funding, academic politics, the goals of those who control the publishing industry, etc to contend with. The questions are still simmering in "the backs of the minds" of many knowledgable people. And the wheels of academia move slowly: there was some kind of hearing about 9/11 before an NSF panel this past weekend, in fact. And, as with the German physicians who came to believe they were all caught up in the "blood cement," inhibiting them from speaking out even if they were not facing the barrel of a gun, you don't have to be either "in on the conspiracy" or "incompetent" to be a bit slow to reach unhappy conclusions and even slower to speak out. (Just look at how faculty at UCF are responsing to what's happening to our "faculty governance.")
I don't know what happened on September 11, 2001. For some reason, however, I have always been relatively tough-minded and have always looked at people who turn their heads away from uncomfortable truths as, in the final analysis, coiwards, so I try not to let myself get away with such self-deception masquerading as self-protection. I do believe that the American people have not been given a truthful account of what went on in the "official story," and I find some of the alternative accounts to be quite reasonable. I look forward to watching as more and more people who are structural engineers and the like begin to overcome their internal censoring and their fears of external sanctions to discuss what, in their best judgment, they think was most probable. I even know a few people who have the sort of background in the physical sciences to come to well-reasoned judgments about what went on, and I know some of them are in fact quite dubious about the official account.
The typical approach of the Western/male mindset, however, which you illustrate so well, is to set up a dualism that seems to make one "side" of the controversy look absurd so that the whole issue can be summarily dismissed from further thought.
This is what you see with, for example, ethical issues raised about how humans treat other forms of life -- the dualism would be posed as, for example, either you privilege human life as being much, much more valuable than any other life or you decide that every bacterial cell must be treated as on a par with a human being. Since this latter pole of the dualism seems patently absurd, you can throw away the entire discussion and go on with the human takeover of the biosphere (which is giving us global climate change among other things) and with supporting the factory farming industry (which is bringing us the transmissible spongiform encephalopathies), et cetera et cetera.
In addition to this handy mechanism of dualistic thinking, which enables such thought throw-aways, the Western/male mindset also seems to be rather right-hemisphere impaired: the approach is quite good at linear thought and manipulation of digital information -- classic example being "money," little digits in computer banks that are often wildly disconnected from what our adherence to the money-is-power fascination leads us to do in the real world of biological organisms and systems. Learning to use BOTH sides of our cerebral cortex, like learning to transcend false dichotomies and grapple with the actual, if complex, situations we confront, is essential at this time in our human history -- we need to see our situation, grasp the gestalt. It is the intransigent refusal to SEE the gestalt when it's right in front of us -- the proverbial "elephant in the living room" -- that I am finding more and more tiresome these days, on the part of many in our male primate hierarchy, and that's why I am also intrigued by your apparent dismissal of "wholistic >>> practitioners of whatever" in your earlier post. There IS a place for (w)holism in the life of a rational animal -- in fact, I believe our hemispheric specialization -- along with interhemispheric communication by means of the corpus callosum -- is an adaptation for survival that we fail to make use of at our own peril. (There are interesting differences between malew and female brains being discovered "as we speak," by the way--that may possibly be a source of hope.)
So, William, please understand that I am not personally attacking you, but that I feel it is my ethical duty to challenge a certain type of thinking that you sometimes exhibit. We all need to direct our attention to alternative possible patterns of human thought if we are ever to overcome our "let's US make war on THEM" mentality, and analyzing the aspects I am considering here is just the first step.

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Reality check: There are actual problems to be solved in this country. Taking comfort in your little conspiracy theories doesn't help with much of anything.
Oh, and I find it interesting how everyone who comments on the dangers of "our mob mentality" do not consider themselves part of said mentality, but nonetheless the majority of them hold very similar views - the "Leftist Orthodoxy" of folks like Chomsky, Zinn, et al. Any real disagreements in that spectrum can usually be chalked up to the narcissism of small differences.
Sort of like the goth kids who think that the kids wearing Abercrombie are sheep, but then don't realize that they all dress and talk alike.
That's another pet peeve of mine I've never really gotten a chance to touch on here at CampusProgress:
Goths.
The vast majority of them are stupid.
But they make great music.
Discuss, if you choose.
Nobody is as cool as you, and you are perfect, correct? Turning Goth is just a stepping stone to non-conformity and individuality, as many goths grow out of this phase rather quickly. We will look back on goth fashion as we now look back on 80's hairbands and early 90's hip-hop.
In regards to the part of your comment that actually pertained to my post, yes, questioners of the official 9/11 report do share a certain level of skepticism, but it varies largely. There is a broad spectrum of non-believers, but the believers see this as merely a binary issue: either you are with us or you are against us. The believers all follow the same suit, like goths that all wear black clothes and eyeshadow. That was the point I was trying to get accross and your response just proves my point. There is no mob mentality on the side of the skeptics, who are merely unconvinced by the 9/11 Report.
Second, what was irrational about this professor's argument? It was well-structured, well-supported, and well-articulated. Is it merely that anyone that you do not disagree with is irrational? I believe you are irrational, because you do not rationally confront the evidence presented against your irrational patriotic blind-faith acceptance of a ludicrous (not the rapper) conspiracy theory that gains such widespread acceptance merely because it is "official."
We need to end the mob stranglehold on 9/11 discourse, or we will never know what happened nor how to address the multitude of mistakes that enabled that tragedy (the bulk of which our new "Homeland Gestapo" Link have not been able to correct thus far).
Many of the problems that existed before 9/11 still exist, uncorrected, today because the public has turned a blind eye to discourse challenging the official investigation and subsequent handling of 9/11.
It's only a conspiracy theory until it's proven, and I have little doubt that the mounting evidence REFUTING the Official Report will soon justify the concerns of the multitudes of skeptics, which includes more than half of Manhattan's population. Unless you were there to experience the attacks first hand, I doubt you can say you are in a better position to refute the "conspiracy theories" Manhattanites are beginning to embrace; but hey, you may also think Manhattanites are just plain stupid (one of your favorite tools of debate).
You, and the goths.
Oh, and liberal arts majors. Especially if it's Justice and Peace Studies or something like that.
Also clowns.
Not mimes. Mimes are cool.
Really now? How many trailblazing intellectuals in serious fields started out as goths?
Please provide one reputable news/professional organization that believes this nonsense.
For example, I'll get the ball rolling. Let's try Popular Mechanics: Link
As to the substance of this post, disbelieving horseshit theories is not the result of succumbing to group psychology, it's the result of their being horseshit theories.
I think it's time for you to evaluate your own psychology and examine why, against overwhelming evidence and the view of every reputable organization in the country, you cannot bring yourself to accept the fact the United States actually was a victim on September 11. Is your anti-American ideology so virulent that you just cannot compute that simple fact?
That PM article is a bunch of b.s. that does not even address the collapse of WTC7.
I do believe America was a victim on 9/11, and we continue to be the victim everytime 9/11 is recalled to justify diminishing our civil liberties or using our military for pre-emptive war.
Your assumption is that anyone who doubts the "official" account of 9/11 hates America; your binary reasoning is unjustified. I love America, and I feel as though we have been hoodwinked. Casting doubt on what I am expected to accept with blind faith does not make mean I hate America.
On top of all that, you assume that anyone backing up the official version is reputable, and anyone attempting to cast doubt is automatically non-reputable, despite the numerous PhD-bearing scholars that refuse to accept such baloney.
Ok, reputable sources:
Link
http://news.yahoo.com/s/prweb/ 20060130/bs_prweb/prweb339303_ 5
Link
http://www.question911.com/lin kout.php?filename=Steven%20Jon es%20Shows%20WTC%20Demolition% 20Evidence.wmv
Link
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view /0,1249,635160132,00.html
Another post on another blog? Please.
An opinion column? Are you kidding?
More links to unheard of conspiracy theory websites? OK, now you're just not even trying.
Most disingenous of all is the Yahoo "News" story that both you and one of these sites links to. It's not a news story at all. It's YAHOO PRWEB, a service that just publishes pre-written press releases. It was just posted there by someone from one of those tinfoil-hat sites. Then they link to it as a "news" story.
Keep trying.
with their PhDs are not credible?
Hunter S. Thompson: Well, lets see. . ."shamefully" is a word that comes to mind.
[. . .]
Hunter S. Thompson: Overall, the American journalism was cowed and intimidated by this massive "flag-sucking," this patriotic orgy. You know, if you criticize the President it's unpatriotic, and there's something wrong with you and you may be a terrorist.
Reporter: So, in that sense, Hunter S. Thompson, there's not enough room for dissenting voices.
Hunter S. Thompson: Oh, there's plenty of room. . .there's just not enough people willing to take the risk.
[. . .]
Hunter S. Thompson: This is sort of a herd mentality, I'll add. A lemming-like mentality. If you don't go with the flow you're anti-American and therefore a suspect.
[. . .]
Hunter S. Thompson: You sort of wonder, when something like that happens, well. . .who stands to benefit? You know, who had the opportunity and the motive? You just have to look at these basic things. I don't assume that I know the truth about what went on that day. I'm just looking around for who had the opportunity; who had the motive; who had the equipment; who had the will.
[. . .]
Hunter S. Thompson: I've spent enough time on the inside. The White House Newsroom, campaigns, and I've known enough sort of people who do these things--the public version of the news; of an event is never really what happened--these people I think are willing to take that further.
Reporter: It seems a very long bow to me, but are you suggesting that this sort of worked in the favor of the Bush Administration.
Hunter S. Thompson: Oh, absolutely. . .absolutely.